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Afghanistan - why are we there?

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Published Date: 17 December 2009
I just hate it. War I mean. But I'm not a pacifist and therefore I understand that sometimes it may be the lesser evil.
Last week we heard the news that the 100th British Soldier had been killed in Afghanistan this year. A terrible toll.

So I thought this an appropriate time to reflect on why we are in Afghanistan and whether the sacrifice of our brave troops is justified.

Since I have been MP we've had two 'war' votes in Parliament- the one on Iraq and the other on Afghanistan.
On Iraq I did not think we were personally threatened so I did not support the conflict and I resigned at the time as Parliamentary Private Secretary to the Attorney General.

On Afghanistan however I did back the United Nations mission although my conscience is constantly challenged as to whether we have done the right thing.

Let me tell you how I see it.

When we are under attack we, in my opinion, have to respond. There will also be situations where the evil is such that if we can change it by intervening we should do so.

For example, we did so in a very minor way in Sierra Leone; our troops arrived in Freetown and the rebels surrendered. Result. We did nothing in Rwanda and 3million died. Should we have? In Bosnia we intervened and probably the outcome was worthwhile.

But let's turn to Afghanistan and the UN mission.

There were twin objectives in the UN recommending military action:

a) Humanitarian - the need to remove the Taliban who had imposed authoritarian control over the nation. In particular oppressing women who were not allowed to be educated or take any part in society. Their cruel, fundamentalist atrocities towards their own people were outrageous.

b) The west had suffered from terrorism, not just 9/11 but attacks on other countries and citizens. With the support of the Taliban Al Qaeda were able to operate terrorist training camps throughout Afghanistan.

Associated with this are the problems of Pakistan and its tribal areas - the Taliban and Al Qaeda are engaging in terrorist activities. We must challenge that as the fall of that nation would be catastrophic given their nuclear arsenal.

The reasons for our ongoing intervention are complex and can often be hard to spot amongst the challenges we face but I believe they are just and should not be forgotten or ignored.

To keep up to date on what I'm doing stop by my website http://www.michaelfoster.org.uk/ .

You can also receive a monthly update on my activities by sending an email to mp@1066.net with 'MPFree' in the subject line.

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AldusHuxley,

Hastings 17/12/2009 10:31:03
Christmas Humbug …..Dickens would have been pleased !

The reality was that the Iraq war and the Afghanistan wars are illegal. Blair distorted the information from the intelligence and there were no weapons of mass destruction, and according to the press he effectively lied to Parliament. There are also quite a few people who state that Blair should be prosecuted as a war criminal. Food for thought.

It should also be noted that Michael was also against a full inquiry int the war on Iraq. Why ?

There seems little point in Mr Foster’s token resignation ….you either believe in what you do or you don’t ie. don’t play at it. As I remarked yesterday ….Michael might consider resigning for our fishermen…..they are after all his constituents!

Besides the cost of our soldiers’ lives , there are the billions of pounds being spent which could have gone towards NHS , schools, old people ,our young children. All squandered.

Why I might also ask is Europe not pulling its weight and why do we have the second largest contingent of soldiers in Afghanistan after the Americans ? It costing us all dearly.

As Bob Dylan sang ………” There’s blood on the tracks”.
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Windyoldman,

St Leonards 17/12/2009 19:27:26
Odd, isn't it, how MPs are inevitably sympathetic towards the plight of those who lives and limbs are lost in the wars those same MPs started?

How many members of their families - including Blair's - are currently 'in harm's way'?

Do you think the military vehicle and munitions maufacturers feel as heartsore, or are they too busy counting their profits to care about anybody bar themselves and the MPs who send them the business?

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JBK Hastings,

17/12/2009 20:08:53
Somewhere in the Bible and every political history tabanacle it says "A king should not build a tower or go to war before he sits down and calculates the cost." Can he afford it? Not just winning and losing. and winning can be even more costly because you are then responsible for another nation and people.

In regard to Taliban and women's rights. No war was ever fought for women's rights or even the rights of children. Even WWII was not fought for the sake of the Jews and the Holocaust who were considered expendable and it was considered Hitler was doing the world a favour with a troublesome problem.

There is no place in the UN declaration for women to be recognised as having refugee status because of violence, rape, honour killings or enforced circumcision. Women have no rights even in the UN definition. No one in the British Govt cares about the women or poor of any country. That has never been the reason for going to war. So PLEASE! save that one for the dummies.

The war whether Afghanistan or Iraq was poorly planned for. From ideas which belonged in Holywood blockbusters and John Wayne films. To the point that American servicemen's families were totally shocked to find their son's and hsubands ended up dead. They thought they would get up and fight another day in another film and get an oscar.

Pakistand - again another country you could not care a bit about. I do not think any Pakistani person believes youc are one jot about them and they are expendable on the world's map of western hope and vision.

Not a pacifist myself but I do not believe in BOOM BOOM BANG BANG You're DEAD. as it is more costly, complicated and escalates. More into wise covert and manipulation behind the scenes. I am a women's rights person but in persuance of my country I would bribe the Taliban or give something which would get them to hand over or despatch Ossam Bin Laden themselves.

The west made the mistake, driven by America to make war on whole countries and the wh
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JBK Hastings,

17/12/2009 20:10:32
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The west made the mistake, driven by America to make war on whole countries and the whole Muslim nation instead of focusing on the few you wanted to get rid of. Naive politics by naive men which would not have been amde by men of a previous generation who had already seen it all before.

Your job is to protect and secure the welfare and wellbeing of your country and nation first and not enter into costly futile wars and ruin it in that way.

Also as you do not equip the men it is like wanting men to build pyramids with bricks without straw. The whole decision has been an insult. Mostly to yourselves, but you are still alive eating Xmas turkey.

You can find this wisdom in any text book on history, wars and political manourvers.
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JBK Hastings,

17/12/2009 21:21:25
I also find it obnoxious that Blair has moved his circus and his ring master role on and now earns £12million + per year spouting nonsense under such titles as "Ethics and Peace" "Peace Envoy"

How much of that money goes to the victims and survivors of his exploits and vital field hospital resources? Totally without concience or care.

Loved Steve Bells cartoon of Blair in the middle of the war dressed like Louis XIV of France. "Iraq'a Mass Weapon of Destruction?" "Cest Moi"
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AldusHuxley,

Hastings 18/12/2009 08:39:59

So Humanitarian is one of the reasons for the wars.

What happened to Zimbabwe then ?....a country connected with the UK through history. What about the suffering there ? Obviously not relevant to Labour.

What hypocracy !
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JBK Hastings,

18/12/2009 11:45:50
I have an idea. As the local politicians do not always discuss or debate their policies on their blogs or what is of interest to us (ie: Vote grabbers) I suggest that we bring them up every week and discuss them on their blogs under their noses and society networking.

I have started a local forum if this is allowed and anyone interested at:

http://hastingshustings.hqforums.com/

It includes a poll of which party and who locally you would vote for. Just starting so bear with me a little sparse at moment. looking as to how to put in up on facebook
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